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| Author : | Topic: "Winning hearts & minds" in Iraq by killing more civilians? | Bottom |
| Pete Posts : 11 |
'U.S. troop deaths in Iraq decline : Officials cite U.S. ‘surge,’ civilian assistance as reasons for decrease' The Associated Press, Oct 23, 2007 "BAGHDAD - October is on course to record the second consecutive decline in U.S. military and Iraqi civilian deaths and Americans commanders say they know why: the U.S. troop increase and an Iraqi groundswell against al-Qaida and Shiite militia extremists. Maj. Gen. Rick Lynch points to what the military calls “Concerned Citizens” — both Shiites and Sunnis who have joined the American fight. He says he’s signed up 20,000 of them in the past four months. “I’ve never been more optimistic than I am right now with the progress we’ve made in Iraq. The only people who are going to win this counterinsurgency project are the people of Iraq. We’ve said that all along. And now they’re coming forward in masses,” Lynch said in a recent interview at a U.S. base deep in hostile territory south of Baghdad. Outgoing artillery thundered as he spoke. (...)" http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21444614/ From 'Informed Comment' by Juan Cole, 10-24-07: (...) "First of all, the assertion that US troop deaths have fallen is extremely misleading. In fact, It is only late October and already more US troops were killed in Iraq in 2007 than in all of 2006. Indeed, 2007 will almost certainly hold the record for the year of the most US military deaths since the war began. According to the Iraq Casualties Site, these are the yearly numbers of death of US military personnel in Iraq: Year US Deaths 2003 486 2004 849 2005 846 2006 822 2007 832 It is true that October is on track to be the least deadly for US troops since March of 2005. It is, however, not clear why exactly US troop deaths have fallen so much in October. It is possible that they are being given few military missions and spending more time on base. Indeed, the sort of ground missions that might involve hand to hand fighting and high US casualties may have been replaced by air strikes against suspected insurgent targets. US air strikes on Iraq are up by a factor of four in 2007 over 2006, according to Newsay. The US launched 1,140 bombing missions in 2007 through the end of September, as opposed to 229 in all of 2006. The US has flown as many as 70 such air missions a day this October, more than at any time since the November, 2004, assault on the Sunni Arab city of Fallujah. Obviously, for an Occupation military to bomb a densely-populated city that it already largely controls is a violation of human rights law." (...) http://juancole.com/ 'An Airstrike a Day Won't Keep Insurgents at Bay It might mean fewer dead Americans, though.' By Fred Kaplan, Slate.com, Oct. 24, 2007 (...) "On Sunday, U.S. soldiers were searching for a leader of a kidnapping ring in Baghdad's Sadr City. The soldiers came under fire from a building. Rather than engage in dangerous door-to-door conflict, they called in air support. Army helicopters flew overhead and shelled the building, killing several of the fighters but also at least six innocent civilians.* (The bad guy got away.) In other words, though the shift means greater safety for our ground troops, it also generates more local hostility. Striking urban targets from the air inevitably means killing more innocent bystanders. This makes some of the bystanders' relatives yearn for vengeance. And it makes many Iraqis—relatives, neighbors, and others watching the news of the attack on television—less trusting of the American troops who are supposedly protecting them. In a conventional war, these consequences might be deemed unavoidable side-effects. But in a counterinsurgency campaign, where the point is to sway the hearts and minds of the population, wreaking such damage is self-defeating." (...) http://www.slate.com/id/2176464/ --Last edited by Pete on 2007-11-17 23:21:28 -- |
| runningfortheborder Posts : 1 |
The insanity continues... Saw a trailer for a new independent movie that's coming out called Blue State. It's about a guy that moves to Canada to make a statement after GW won again in '04... Seemed kind of contrived at first, but when you look back at the last few years... It starts to sound enticing! If the GOP retakes capital hill, I'm outta here! All I wanna know, is who's coming with me! Hahaha! Anyways, the movie looked pretty good. You can check out the trailer @ www.bluestatemovie.com |
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